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I would like to say, that I don´t imagine how others will react. But that would be a lie. Actually maybe only a half of it.

I am no professional. Last time someone tried to teach me something about writing (creative or not) was in high school and that is 5 years ago. Some people back then said I wrote well, that I had imagination, that what I wrote was interesting. Well that was high school, life was easy and I didn´t care about those comments pass the grade it earned me. I always wrote poetry, I loved to do it, it was my emotional filter and I had friends whit which I would meet up and we would read our own stuff to each other. They went to study language in one form or another and they had much more talent than I did and they were free. I never really liked free rhyme. I never really progressed and I lost my illusion. I didn´t have to look far away to see that my writing is shallow, my creativity is limited and I am too bound by my own prejudice. I went to study law. I write contracts, I write briefs I don´t do art. The meetings stopped very soon after high school ended. Not the writing. I just do it for me and for me only, selfishly and freely in my own confined way.

Ok. back to the issue at hand. As Crys, who is to blame for this post, calls it I am raw. My first fan fiction was written during a boring class that lasted 90 minutes. I browsed prompts for Tatsuyathon first 30 minutes of it and managed to finish the story by the end of the class. It had 2466 words. So I am impulsive, usually write a fic in one go and have a very little inclination to change anything once it is done. I never stopped writing poetry, I wrote few original stories (some of them only in my head) and fan fiction became just another way of filtering my emotions. Only this time, someone else got to read it. The reason why I wrote my second and third is because people were incredibly nice to me and encouraged me and some even said it was good. So I wrote some more. I love my fandom :) And i might be a bit of a narcist. Who doesn´t seek an approval?

Now I am more conscious about what I write, about my characterizations, about my style, my format. Not because of me, because I don´t care. Once I finish writing, the fiction fulfill its mission. It may become a reason why I am able to keep an acquaintance or why I am able to keep silent and not fight back my mom. It is done. Then I look at it and read through it and “fix it” for my readers. I think about how the others will react. Still this is me, this is my style, my fantasy, my characters, my world. If you don´t like it, don´t read it, it is your prerogative. I am happy if you do read, if you leave me a comment. I would love someone telling me what is wrong with my fiction and looking back at it I might agree. Or I might not.

I haven´t got much negative comments on my writing. That doesn´t make me a good author. It probably makes me a forgettable and a poor one. One that is not worth of criticism. The critique probably thinks I would not listen or improve anyway. The way to hurt me is to not comment at all. When a fic gets only a comment or two, that´s when I know it wasn´t that great. It wasn´t up to the expectations of people reading. Paradox -ly sometimes it is the fic I had great time writing and that I personally love.

I reread my old stuff, try not to repeat the mistake I think I made and worry. Worry what others will think. But most of the time I am too stubborn to change my work, only because I think some of you might not like it. This is why I write freely and raw. And then I rant to my sis, all scared no one will think it is any good, that people will think it sucks, about how anxious I am to put it out there. So really I am a stubborn hypocrite. I want approval, I think of others reactions, but I am not willing to compromise. Most of the time.

Now this all changes a bit when I write for someone else specifically and I guess that´s when I improve the most. I research, I read other authors, I bend myself, I try to attend to this person´s needs, I try to fulfill the task I am given, I try to give pleasure. Still I tend to say my works in progress take over me, rule over me and I can´t really control them. Finding a balance is hard. As with anything.

When I read Crys´ post, what stuck in my mind was her talking about no-no´s of writing, of fandom. I don´t know about them, or I ignore them. If someone does tell me about them, either I consider them a constructive criticism and then I will try to take them into consideration or I think they are personal opinions of someone who just doesn´t like my world and I forget them. Even in life I have a philosophy of “bad memory”: I think humans should have bad memory and very selective one, it is useless to dwell on past wrongs and hurtful things. They only make the present bitter. If I am to remember something, be it the good points. I am not saying this is a right way to live and sometimes it is really a hard way to live. But it definitely applies to my raw, completely unprofessional, totally personal and random writing. I write because it is fun, because it keeps me standing and sometimes because one of you challenges me to (by asking, by whining, by something trivial you say).

So I do think about other people´s reaction, but I do not dwell on them and I am the only one who can bring myself down, or who can make myself get better.

Do I make sense here? Is this what the question was? This again is only my raw scribbles without much of premises. Now it is your turn. Because I too am curious right now.

Date: 2009-10-14 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sashjun.livejournal.com
♥ for discussing this with me!

Content editing in the light of all I said is hard to accept. But sometimes I would love to have it, because really there are times when I just don´t know, especially when writing for someone specific. I do not have a stable beta though and so I just bug my sister. We have this way of going through each other´s fics, and sometimes I just feel like posting it with her comments. When she puts LOL into brackets somewhere I am gushing, but she also says stuff like: “No idea what are you saying, but you are right.”, or “Would you please use different word, this one drives me crazy ...” Oh and then we argue over MSN whether she is right or not! That´s about how close to content editing I get.

Grammar! The never ending trouble! I envy you for being good at it, for being able to rely on it. I am not a native speaker and in many ways it is limiting and I probably feel it more than anybody else. Trying to avoid idioms that exist in Slovak, but not in English, trying to structure a sentence correctly, oh and articles, which we just don´t have so I am so lost! Broadening the vocab, tenses, commas .... argh! My sister studies English and again if she reads my things or I read hers we end up on MSN, googling, looking through grammar tips, ... well at least this way I learn something new every time I write. Still it is hard to transfer my passive knowledge into the active one, to use what I know can be used.

Now that to be said, I have low tolerance (unfortunately) for some other writers who write while they have problems with basic grammar as the change of verb in 3rd person, or use of a correct tense ... I can only imagine how distracting it can be for a native speaker with good grammar knowledge on top of it. Again my sister has a recipe for that. If she reads a story like that and she feels it could be a really good one, she likes the plot, the humor, something, she copy-pastes it into Word, does a private "beta", fixes the biggest mistakes and then she enjoys! I think she is amazing for that, because, exactly, she looks past the grammar, past the form and recognizes a good story for what it is.

So I am sorry if my grammar ever drives you crazy I do try as I think most of the people do, I think that the biggest problem we all have is that by the time you finish a story you practically know it by heart and you don´t notice the mistakes anymore because in your head all is perfect!

And thanks for liking that Ryo/Shige *___*, I do enjoy writing one of the characters a bit blunt about their emotions, although in certain sense it does make them much more vulnerable. On the other hand, in some stories, I have tried (and probably will try again) to show how the characters feel through their actions, the small insignificant things they do, how they react. For me, sometimes it is fun to read between the lines. I hope to once write a story that others will feel despite me not really telling them how they should ...

This got awfully long, sorry! Again I am thankful for you sharing your thoughts with me, it is a pretty enriching experience!

Date: 2009-10-14 07:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imifumei.livejournal.com
although in certain sense it does make them much more vulnerable.

Oh! But that's what I love!

Regarding your grammar: honestly, yes, sometimes it bugs me a little. But, and I really want to stress this, I like you and I like your stories so I try to get past it. I do realize that there are more important things than grammar. It would be really sad not to enjoy a great story just because of tense changes or article usage. That said, please feel free to ask if you have questions or would like a second opinion about grammar or idioms in English, but certainly don't feel as though I think you must run things past me.

The issues with idioms not translating well is really prevalent with not native speakers who write in English. Idioms are one of my favorite parts of language. They tell you a lot about the culture that speaks the language. I'd love to hear about idioms that you have in Slovak that don't exist in English!

Don't worry about apologizing for long comments! Conversations can be as long or short as they need to be to get the point across.

Date: 2009-10-14 08:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sashjun.livejournal.com
XDDD THAAANK YOU and I promise I´ll keep on trying to avoid the mistakes as much as I can. And next time I´ll stumble upon an idom for which English has a completely different saying I´ll let you know :)

Date: 2009-10-14 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imifumei.livejournal.com


Awesome!

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